Curse

xtacb · May 20, 2006, 04:05 AM // 04:05

Hi guys! this is my 3rd or 4th post here!
You know in PvP those guys that have been popping up, R/N touch rangers?
How about using them for the luxon elite mission the deep and farming the deep boss becoming more of a possibility?

The last boss kanaxai stops taking damage and needs to be kd to take damage again, but when this happens alot of shadows will spawn. What if you use vampiric touch and bite to kill the boss? You dont even have to kd the boss even once! And since R/N touch rangers dont require elite for damaging - they usually use escape as their elite - they can use order of apostasy to remove the boss's enchantments!
So a team should probably be 3 warriors, 4 monks, 1 ritualist, 2 elementalists, and 2 touch rangers. You could do the way of killing the boss by waiting until it stops taking damage then kd it, then killng the few shadows that popup, and repeating this about 4 times until you kill the boss, but if you use touch rangers it will be faster and easier, since you can kill the boss without ever having to kd at all. Getting up to the boss is easy, as long as u can avoid the err7 glitches that anet is doing to make the mission harder that is.

Note i havent tried this out yet - i just thought of it a few minutes ago and am going to try it out as soon as possible. If it works since life steal is so cheap (goes through armor, PS, and so on -what was anet thinking making another vampiric touch a skill to be usable with expertise?) it will make the deep last boss items farmable if they weren't enough already.

btw the new update just fixed the flowering turning off! ive only been to the last boss twice and we didnt have enchantment removal or something (they said they had it before) and 5 times in a row got to room 10 with the flowers and it glitched! now the fixed it so its even easier to get through!

Tell me how it works out!

Ggraphix · May 20, 2006, 03:19 PM // 15:19

we couldn't kill the final boss either, but I didn't have any touch skills to try out.

Could somebody post how he is supposed to be killed please?
What skill helps out the most?

Warskull · May 20, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23

If you really wanted to go this route the best way to do it would be to take a minimum of 4 warriors and utilize order of the vampire+vampic weapons to pummel him into submission.

xtacb · May 20, 2006, 08:39 PM // 20:39

Touch rangers with constant 65 per second life steal would outdamage warriors stealing only 3 health at a time even with ias, but order of the vampire would definitely help everyone health steal. Ideally 12 R/N touch rangers would be doing max damage but you cant get to the last boss that way. Most you can probably fit into a group that can reach the boss easily and quickly is 2 or 3.

So if you include 4 warriors that switch to vampiric weapons at last boss, someone doing constant order of the vampire, and the 2 or 3 touch rangers stealing health, that would probably be the most damaging way to beat the boss without ever having to kd it. Yea with all that life steal killing the last boss should be fast and easy!

fb2000 · May 21, 2006, 10:54 AM // 10:54

why does everyone strive not to knock him down?
true, ive not done this mission, but it shouldnt be too difficult to have a warrior bring shove or something oO

Aera · May 21, 2006, 11:57 AM // 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by fb2000

why does everyone strive not to knock him down?
true, ive not done this mission, but it shouldnt be too difficult to have a warrior bring shove or something oO

Devastating hammer, counterblow, heavy blow, dead :P

Wolydarg · May 21, 2006, 03:09 PM // 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by fb2000

why does everyone strive not to knock him down?
true, ive not done this mission, but it shouldnt be too difficult to have a warrior bring shove or something oO

Everytime he's knockdowned he spawns quite a few enemies to harass you.

From guildwiki.org
"With each knockdown, mob of 8 monsters will appear. They consist of Sapping Nightmares, Freezing Nightmares and Oni."

garethporlest18 · May 21, 2006, 03:39 PM // 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolydarg

Everytime he's knockdowned he spawns quite a few enemies to harass you.

From guildwiki.org
"With each knockdown, mob of 8 monsters will appear. They consist of Sapping Nightmares, Freezing Nightmares and Oni."

Well, if you KD him at the wrong time.. he spawns more. My group did that and about 20 Sapping Nightmares spawned.

mtm · May 21, 2006, 04:34 PM // 16:34

He doesn't spawn more, the reason you got more spawns (as explained in the wiki) is that you used multiple kds.

He spawns 8 monsters per kd. If you got about 20 Nightmares, it means someone used meteor shower (triple kd: 3x8=24 spawns).

Sometimes people don't want to admit they kd'ed, I was the "dedicated kd'er" in a party, we had a double spawn, and later one of the party members admitted that he also used kd (i delayed a bit to kd as my attacks were evaded, so he thought I wouldn't kd and did it himself).

Still the single spawn is not easy to handle and can lead in a party massacre

fb2000 · May 21, 2006, 04:55 PM // 16:55

ignorance be blessed ^^

anyone tried the touch build then? ^^

llsektorll · May 21, 2006, 10:01 PM // 22:01

my idea for build would be...

4 warriors (bane signet if ur not running hammer (hammer dmg is a bit to slow for me))
2 BIPers with WoB and Degens (secondary mesmer with enchant removal)
2 heal party spammers
2 boon prots (with extinguish)
2 Trappers

in theory it should work but not to many rangers down there as opposed to monks warrios or necros...

mlsthuy1 · May 23, 2006, 04:38 PM // 16:38

do u think Vamp still making him dmg ?
at 75% 50% and 25% ?
that sound gơod tho , i might try it later tonight tho =D
cuz KD him is a pain lolz ...................
deal with 6 chaos storm with -8 degen is not fun at all
and that halarious energy burn spike hahahhahahaha

Sir Mad · May 23, 2006, 06:28 PM // 18:28

I guess that indeed he will take damage from that: I've noticed he does from vamp mods (he doesnt take normal damage but still have 3/5 health stolen).

jackie · May 23, 2006, 07:11 PM // 19:11

OoV & Vampiric weapons are definately big plus when killing Kanaxai.
No need to KD him at all ^_^

Guts · May 24, 2006, 07:34 AM // 07:34

You can tell those that have actually fought him and those that are just talking out thier asses...

"Devastating hammer, counterblow, heavy blow, dead :P" Yea you go try that and your corpse and the corpse of your whole team can come tell me how it worked lol.

sunlight · May 24, 2006, 08:06 AM // 08:06

well,i have been fighting him for about 4 days now,and couldnt kill him with any kind of build,including vampiric.
we had order +vamp weapons+vampiric touch,the necro even had gaze.kanaxai natural regen is faster than the vamp dmg being done to him,as any other attack doesnt work unless kd.

but i wonder,conjure nightmare+phantasm+mos,maybe itll degen him so the vamps do make some dmg? anyway,he is the tuffest boss i fought, hope we find the trick to killing him every run,not 1 out of 10.

just call me jimmy · May 24, 2006, 02:31 PM // 14:31

Just fight him the way you are supposed too, you whimps.

Your energy would be put to better use, fingding skills to take care of the spawns. Which if you think hard is easy.

Kcp · May 24, 2006, 11:20 PM // 23:20

Let them keep trying to degen, life steal him, and knock him down repeatedly(when they aren't supposed to.)

There may be something to the fact people want specific builds to farm Kanaxai when your camped in the deep Lfg.

Fifithedestroyer · May 25, 2006, 02:29 PM // 14:29

my GOD this sounds fun
im gonna have to give it a try this weekend

Divinus Stella · May 26, 2006, 03:19 AM // 03:19

Just did a guild run, was my idea to take orders and some other vamp skills as i heard it worked on the aspects, but when you drop him below the normal health barrier at 80% he has natural regen/healing that kick in so it takes a while, im not sure what its like with the sorta vamp damage a touch necro would do but i dont think it would be that fast, if it was even enough to kill you would be there for a while.

We ended up just knocking him down and using edge to kill the mass spawns fast.